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Safety Third: Why Security Shouldn’t Be Your Top Priority

Podcast

The New CISO Podcast with guest Alex Rice

  • Jan 13, 2026
  • 1 minute to read

Episode 139

In this episode of The New CISO Podcast, host Steve Moore speaks with Alex Rice, Founder, CTO, and CISO at HackerOne, about challenging one of cybersecurity’s most deeply held beliefs — that security should be the top priority. Drawing from his journey building security programs at Facebook and founding HackerOne, Alex introduces the “safety third” philosophy and explains why accepting that security is never first can actually make you more effective as a leader.

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Alex Rice

Alex Rice is a Co-Founder, Chief Information Security Officer, and Chief Technology Officer at HackerOne. Alex is responsible for developing the HackerOne technology vision, driving engineering efforts, and counseling customers as they build progressive security programs. Alex was previously at Facebook, where he founded and led the product security team. Before that, he was a senior member of the R&D team at Forcepoint, an enterprise security company acquired by Raytheon for $1.9 billion. A long time ago in a state far, far away, Alex worked to improve software and network security as a public servant with the State of Florida.

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