The New CISO Podcast

The New CISO Podcast Episode 111: Change the Way You Think About Loss, Risk, and Revenue
April 11, 2024

The New CISO Podcast Episode 110: Keep Calm and Communicate Better: Advice for Young Managers
March 21, 2024

The New CISO Podcast Episode 109: Public-Private Partnership – How to Punish Bad Actors, Not Organizations
February 29, 2024

The New CISO Podcast Episode 108: Why CISOs Need to be Champions of AI
February 8, 2024

The New CISO Podcast Episode 107: A CISO’s Advice On Learning, Earning, and Dodging Burnout
January 18, 2024

The New CISO Podcast Episode 106: How to Respond When You Don’t Get the Job
December 28, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 105: Great Leaders Make Leaders — Especially During a Breach
December 7, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 104: How One Job Taught Five Important Leadership Lessons
November 16, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 103: Why CISOs Should Solve Business Problems, Not Technology Problems
November 2, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 102: The CISO Triforce: Preparing Your Post-Breach Go Bag
October 19, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 101: What About Third-Party Risk? A CISO’s Questions for the SEC
October 5, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 100: Six Mentorship Questions with Two Top Leaders
September 21, 2023

Listen to Steve, Michael, and Mark discuss managing stress while diving head-first into challenging situations, as well as tips for maximizing the growth of junior team members.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 99: Know Your Strengths: How to Lead with Skills You Already Have
September 7, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 98: What’s In a Word? Managing Your Message More Effectively
August 24, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 97: Confidence or Arrogance? Ego Problems and How to Solve Them
August 10, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 96: The 70-20-10 Rule – Steps You Can Take for Professional Growth
July 27, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 95: Security Engineer to CEO – Taking a Chance on Yourself
July 13, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 94: The ABCs of Threat Actors – How to Stop Attackers From Becoming Insiders
June 29, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 93: Great Minds Think Differently: Neurodiversity and Vulnerability in Leadership
June 15, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 92: The Power of Automation: Which Tools Can Help Your Security Team?
June 1, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 91: Taking Extreme Ownership: How 3 Common Excuses Hurt Security Leaders
May 18, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 88: The Patient Safety Model: Developing a Hospital’s Security Culture
May 6, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 90: How To Build Trust Within Your Team, Your Business, and Yourself
May 4, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 89: Be Comfortable Being Uncomfortable: Managing New Roles and Next Steps
April 20, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 87: What Would a Breach Cost You? Personal Risk vs. Reward as a CISO
March 23, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 86: Self-Sufficient Security: The Perks of Being a vCISO
March 15, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 85: 5 Top Tips for Boosting Security Mindfulness
February 23, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 84: Are You Ready to be a CISO? Why Mentors Matter
January 26, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 83: Be the One Who Gets the Call – The Keys to Landing New Opportunities
January 12, 2023

The New CISO Podcast Episode 82: Learning From a Layoff: Career Growth, Change, and Opportunity
December 29, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 81: “Protecting Your Revenue with Machine Learning and Data Science” with Steve Magowan
December 15, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 80: Life After Breach: How Hospitals Can Protect Patient Data
December 1, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 79: Building Your Framework for Fulfillment
November 17, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 78: Bridging the Effectiveness Gap: A CISO’s Perspective on New-Scale SIEM
November 3, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 77: Storytelling For CISOs – How to Make Your Message Resonate
October 20, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 76: Translating Your Military Skills for Security Success
October 6, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 75: Broad Knowledge is Power: Building a Better Security Team
September 22, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 74: Success After CISO – How to Become Your Own Boss
September 7, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 73: Leading with a Military Mindset: It’s We, Not Me
August 25, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 72: Landing a Seat in the C-Suite
August 11, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 71: Train the Way You Fight, Fight the Way You Train
July 28, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 70: Trusting Your Tech to Tackle Human Problems
July 14, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 69: Solving Security Puzzles
June 30, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 68: Building The Right Relationships
June 15, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 67: Don’t Be Afraid to Break Things
June 6, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 66: Investing in Your Security Team
April 14, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 65: Cybersecurity Trends and Practices
March 2, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 64: Management Training: Learning How To Manage Managers
February 1, 2022

The New CISO Podcast Episode 63: Managing Your First Zero-Day Attack
December 23, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 62: Demonstrating the Value of Your Program to the ‘Layman’
November 18, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 61: Don’t Cut Corners When It Comes To Credentials
November 4, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 60: Invest in People as Much as Tools
October 21, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 59: Empowering People to Bring Their “Whole Self” to Work
October 8, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 58: Building Your First Cybersecurity Program
September 20, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 57: Knowing When It’s Time to Move Onto New Challenges
September 2, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 56: Leading Cybersecurity as a Key Business Driver
August 19, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 55: Defending Data and Corporate Systems Without Sacrificing Revenue and Velocity
August 5, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 54: Growing Your Confidence as a Young Leader
July 28, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 53: Four Key Elements of a Security Strategy
July 9, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 52: Earning the Business’ Trust as a New CISO
June 25, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 51: Building an Insider Threat Program from Scratch
June 10, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 50: Why Teams Fail: Building Resilience Into Your Security Program and Culture
May 26, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 49: Sugarcoating Security Data Doesn’t Help Anyone
May 13, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 48: Getting the Job Done Doesn’t Always Mean Getting Credit for It
April 29, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 47: Why Does Cybersecurity Mentorship Matter?
April 15, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 46: Why Great Teams Need “Lifelong Learners”
April 1, 2021

The New CISO Podcast Episode 45: Don’t Aspire to be a CISO
March 18, 2021

On this episode, Steve speaks with Dr. Rebecca Wynn, about the positive impact leaders can have on the mental health of their team members, why she believes CISOs are changing jobs more frequently and why a title alone isn’t something you should aspire to.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 44: Exploring New Job Opportunities Amid a Global Pandemic
March 4, 2021

Our new episode sees a familiar face return to the show. Rinki Sethi, previously of Rubrik, recently took on the role of CISO at Twitter.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 43: Four Questions Every CISO Should Ask Their Board
February 18, 2021

On this episode, Steve speaks with Eric Cole of Secure Anchor Consulting, about why Eric believes it’s important for CISOs to step away from the more technical aspects of security.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 42: Influencing and Informing Non-Technical Business Partners on Security Issues
February 17, 2021

On this episode, Steve speaks with Curtis Simpson, CISO at Armis. The two talk shop around the pros and cons of starting your career in small vs large organizations, influencing and informing other business partners from a security perspective, and why he believes the CISO shouldn’t report to the CIO.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 41: How Do Leaders Cultivate Diversity of Thought?
January 21, 2021

On this episode, Steve speaks with Artie Wilkowsy, CISO at Dish Network, about why he thinks a broader understanding of security could be more beneficial than specialization early on in your career, and how giving each member of your team a stake in the decision-making process cultivates diversity of thought.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 40: Balance Budget and Tools by Rationalizing Your Security Stack
January 7, 2021

On this episode we headed in a slightly different direction, speaking to Gorka Sadowski, Chief Strategy Officer at Exabeam.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 39: The Moments After a Major Breach
December 23, 2020

What mechanisms do effective security teams have in place in the event of a breach? How do you communicate that one has happened? On this episode, Steve speaks with Dave Damato, CSO of Gemini, about all the cogs that start turning once a breach has been detected. Dave and Steve even do a roleplay of how an organization could respond publicly.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 38: Building a Student-Run SOC to Meet Threats Head-On
December 10, 2020

On this episode, Steve speaks with Aaron Baillio, CISO of the University of Oklahoma, about his move from the Department of Defense to higher education.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 37: 2021 Cybersecurity Trends
November 26, 2020

On this all-star show, Steve invites previous guests Deneen Defiore from United Airlines, Charlie McNerney from Expedia, and Colin Anderson from Levi’s back for our very first live recording of The New CISO Podcast; to talk all things 2021.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 36: Are Hiring Policies Driving the Cybersecurity Skills Shortage?
November 12, 2020

On this show, Steve speaks with Steve Marshall, CISO for Bytes Software Services, about why he moved from Biophysics to InfoSec and how business decisions drive risk.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 35: Translating Your Military Experience in Operationalizing Security to the Private Sector
October 29, 2020

On this episode, Steve speaks with Jeffery Schilling, Global CISO at TelePerformance.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 34: Culture Eats… Security for Breakfast
October 15, 2020

You’ve heard that culture eats strategy for breakfast, but can it also take a bite out of security? On this episode, Steve chats to George Finney, CISO of Southern Methodist University.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 33: Managing Risk While Building Trust in a Post-Breach Environment
October 1, 2020

On this show Steve sits down with Charlie McNerney, CISO of Expedia Group. The two talk about how to be a respectful leader and finding respectful leadership, the notion of trust, and how diagnosing a problem before treating it can be a good strategy.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 32: Lessons Learned from the “First CISO” Part 2″
September 17, 2020

On the second of this two-part conversation, Stephen and Steve talk about how to build security awareness within your organization, identifying why the business needs a cybersecurity program and, ultimately, how to build your first program.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 31: Lessons Learned from the “First CISO” Part 1″
September 3, 2020

On the first of a two-part conversation, Steve sits down with Steve Katz, unofficially the first person to hold the CISO title.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 30: The Benefits of Finding a Security Vendor Who Can Act as a Trusted Advisor
August 20, 2020

On this episode, Steve sits down with Damien Manuel from Deakin University Australia.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 29: Why the “Shiny New Thing” in Cybersecurity Isn’t Necessarily the Best Solution
August 6, 2020

On this episode, Steve and Newmont Corporation CISO, Chris Ard, talk about the benefits to your career when the role you are in has a tangible human impact and how chasing the next new cybersecurity tool might not be as effective as a cybersecurity posture that’s tailored to your organization’s unique needs.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 28: Making the Leap from Engineering to Cybersecurity Leadership
July 23, 2020

This episode sees Steve speak with David Rule, first-time CISO who, prior to this, had a more technical role.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 27: Is Our Understanding of Who Owns Risk Driving CISOs to the Edge?
July 9, 2020

On this episode, Steve speaks to Gary Hayslip, US Navy veteran, author of The CISO Desk Reference Guide, and CISO at SoftBank Investment Advisers.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 26: The State of the SOC in 2020
June 25, 2020

On this special edition of The New CISO, returning guest Brian Haugli, vCISO, and founder of SideChannel Security joins Steve to give his perspective on the Exabeam 2020 State of the SOC report.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 25: Determining Risk Tolerance for a 100-Million-User per Month Organization
June 4, 2020

On this episode, Steve speaks to Chris Hymes, CISO and Head of Enterprise IT for Riot Games, about acceptable risk, the parallels between anti-cheat teams and threat hunting, and the benefit of sharing intelligence between competitors.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 24: Getting on With the Business of Security, by Building Trust
May 21, 2020

On this episode, Steve speaks to Deneen DeFiore, CISO of United Airlines, about making the operational AND cultural shift between different businesses in the same industry, and how to get on with security by building trust straight off the bat.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 23: Recovering from a ‘Bad CISO’
May 7, 2020

A tough topic, yes, but there's more to it than just being good or bad at the job you have right now. On this episode, Stephen talks to Edward Kiledjian, OpenText CISO, about the 'bad CISO' and how they come to be.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 22: How Do You Measure the Success of Your Cybersecurity Program?
April 23, 2020

On this episode, Cisco Cloud Security CISO, Marzena Fuller, talks about the consulting world vs traditional CISO roles; and the different elements that add to the success of a cybersecurity program.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 21: How Emotional Intelligence Fortifies Capability in the Midst of a Crisis
April 9, 2020

On our one year anniversary episode, Steve sits down with The Estée Lauder Companies Inc. SVP & CISO, Kirsten Davies.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 20: Strategies for Securing A Remote Workforce
March 26, 2020

On this episode, Kelsey-Seybold Clinic CISO Martin Littmann and Steve talk about remote working; and cybersecurity strategies for a sudden shift to where your entire organization finds itself working from home.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 19: No as a Service: Why Security Can Stifle Innovation and How to Prevent It
March 12, 2020

How do you bridge the chasm between the board and the SOC team, between the non-technical and the experts in the field? More importantly perhaps, how do you do that AND protect innovation? Amedisys CISO Richard Kaufmann and can help.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 18: Losing Your Job as a CISO: Does the Cybersecurity Skills Shortage Extend to Executives?
February 27, 2020

This episode is an open, honest discussion with Port Houston CISO and US Navy vet, Chris Wolski about his experiences after being let go from his previous position; and the challenges he faced landing his next job.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 17: Your First 90 Days As A New CISO
February 13, 2020

So you're starting your job as a first-time CISO and there's already a security team in place; with their own habits, personalities and procedures... now what?

The New CISO Podcast Episode 16: From the ‘Basement’ to the Board: Giving Cybersecurity Teams Greater Visibility
January 31, 2020

This episode sees Rubrik CISO, Rinki Sethi, talk about the challenges some security teams face when the organizations they're meant to protect bury them so deep inside their organizational structure, that they end up having to compete for resources and visibility with other departments.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 15: Taking a Step back and Learning to Trust the Experts on Your Team
January 16, 2020

Our guest on episode one of season two is Steve Person, CISO of Cambia Health Solutions, who talks about continuously refocusing on the really important work; and learning how people outside of security measure their own success, in order to build lasting relationships.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 14: Why 3rd Party Security Testing is the New Password Rotation
December 30, 2019

On this episode, Chris Castaldo, #CISO of Dataminr and US Army Veteran, and Stephen Moore, speak plainly about the challenges of leadership early on in your career, and call out some of the more... intrusive aspects of third party security testing.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 13: Unique Challenges, but Opportunities for Women in Cybersecurity
December 13, 2019

On this episode, Olivia Rose talks about the challenges women in security face, and how these can translate into unique opportunities.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 12: 2020 Cybersecurity Trends
November 26, 2019

This show back two previous guests, Brian Haugli and Scott Morris, to talk about security trends we see going into 2020, specifically changes to the role of the CISO, breaking out of that purely IT and security silo; and helping our organizations better understand risk. We also discuss how to build smarter security solutions, and implement effective capabilities.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 11: Partnering with Higher Education to Prepare Students for a Career in Cybersecurity
November 13, 2019

On this episode, Woodforest National Bank CISO Marc Crudgington, MBA explains how building effective cyber programs in higher education can help prepare the next generation of CISOs for the challenges of an industry in flux.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 10: Assessing Security Reporting Structures
October 25, 2019

On this episode, Lenny Levy talks to Stephen Moore about how we can influence and ultimately correct existing lines of reporting.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 9: Digital Trust for Digital Transformation
October 11, 2019

On this episode, Box CISO, Lakshmi Hanspal talks about how she has reshaped the way her organization sees her team; from a security office into a “trust office” and runs through the core pillars that make up her role as CISO

The New CISO Podcast Episode 8: Securing a Cybersecurity Organization
September 26, 2019

As cybersecurity becomes entrenched in the business cycle, other business functions have expanded their interactions with security teams. That said, the understanding of what a CISO does – hasn’t always followed the same trajectory.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 7: Understanding the Adversary
September 10, 2019

Building a career in security can be a challenge, even for those of us who start off early. For some however, the job can be a natural progression from Her Majesty’s armed forces to helping secure the 2012 Olympics and ultimately becoming a CISO.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 6: Contributing to the Cybersecurity Community
August 27, 2019

Not too long ago you’d be hard pressed to find cybersecurity communities to engage with, whereas today their ubiquity might be putting them at risk.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 5: Does Security Training Really Work?
August 13, 2019

If we believe that employees are our first line of defense against attacks – like phishing, credential theft, and business email compromise, we need their active participation.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 4: Winning Over the Board
July 29, 2019

The CISO and the board generally share something in common – they both want to manage risk and make the business successful. But a CISO has to earn the board’s trust, even when it’s well established that they’re the security subject matter expert.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 3: What It Means to Be an Honest Broker
May 20, 2019

As a former CISO in Hanover Insurance Group, Brian Haugli shares what it means to be an honest broker in the context of security leadership, which might be better described as an agent of trust and transparency for a business.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 2: The Ins and Outs of Budgeting
April 22, 2019

Andrew Wild, CISO at QTS Data Centers, talks about building an IT security budget, the challenges of prioritizing resources to balance risk, and the value of cooperation–something often more difficult to obtain than the budget itself.

The New CISO Podcast Episode 1: Lessons Learned from a Virtual CISO
April 10, 2019

On our first episode of The New CISO podcast, Host Stephen Moore and Matt Klein share insights on teamwork, getting visibility at the executive level, and the right prep for effective board conversations when you’re not always ‘in the room’.